爱马人

大家都是爱马人，我想问一个问题我们注重的是在马上奔跑的感觉还是我们真的爱马呢？ h4v6sY

原想讓馬友們暢談個人觀點

但是等了一個禮拜的時間了都沒有任何回復

看來 ma 兄的這個問題還挺難回覆的

以我個人認為

真爱马與注重在马上奔跑的感觉並不衝突

馬長時間待在馬廄裡，適度的運動、伸展對馬是好的

只是騎乘時要注意馬的體力負荷、騎乘場地的環境等等

個人意見！

ma 兄你個人的想法呢？

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以下是引用ma在2007-6-28 23:14:32的发言：
大家都是爱马人，我想问一个问题我们注重的是在马上奔跑的感觉还是我们真的爱马呢？

爱的定义,我也一直没有搞明白.

我从不惩罚马,从某种意义上说算爱马.

我精心照顾自己的马,这个爱马的定义太狭隘

我能和马匹交流,知道运动时它是不适还是很高兴,它喜欢我拍拍脖子鼓励它,更喜欢我准备的胡萝卜.

曾经因为天气原因我的马无法奔跑,它生病被抢救,我知道这是饲养的原因,但另一方面也说明,这是天生需要奔跑的生命

那就让它去跑吧,只要不伤害它.不妨碍我们爱马.

爱马,我们还要学很多,很多

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尽可能和它容为一体，去体会人马合一，随着它的起伏联动，别去砸它的后背，这样它也会舒服很多

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什么什么自己的马看见你会和你叫，那你就是一个合格的爱马人。 h4v6sY

努力去学习正确的、不会对马或人造成伤害的与马相处的知识，这本身就是爱马的表现吧。我是这么想的。

另外，当你骑在马背上的时候，时刻记住驮着你的是一个活生生的生命而不是奔跑的机器，这也是爱马。

发自内心地想跟马接近、无论何时都很高兴看到马……这都是爱马。

我也觉得喜欢骑马奔跑跟爱马是不矛盾的。

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以下是引用khyuan在2007/7/6 0:34:00的发言：

原想讓馬友們暢談個人觀點

但是等了一個禮拜的時間了都沒有任何回復

看來 ma 兄的這個問題還挺難回覆的

以我個人認為

真爱马與注重在马上奔跑的感觉並不衝突

馬長時間待在馬廄裡，適度的運動、伸展對馬是好的

只是騎乘時要注意馬的體力負荷、騎乘場地的環境等等

個人意見！

ma 兄你個人的想法呢？

爱马一个模糊得定义，爱它身上的味道，喜欢它发脾气时的暴躁，它什么都知道喜、怒、哀、乐。它都知道。高贵的神灵，我怕它老的那一天离我而去。

h4v6sY

谈点个人浅见  楼主是概念混淆  别把爱马和爱骑马混为一谈  真正的爱马那就是要像爱护孩子一样爱护它们  喂马 打扫马房 打理马匹 调教马匹 把他们培养成才  视马为友共同进步 h4v6sY

马，

蹄可以践霜雪，

毛可以御风寒，

龁草饮水，

翘足而陆，

此马之真性也。

虽有义台路寝，

无所用之。

-------庄子

h4v6sY

我爱马的定义比较狭隘。

首先我爱的是好马，然后把它作为一种艺术品来对待和欣赏；

其次我会关心马的态度，看看他是否接受、喜欢我对他种种爱的方式；

最后，才有可能将双方的融入彼此的生活，骑乘只是相互交融时的一个章节。

如果单纯为了追求疾驰的快感，我更推荐过山车，海盗船之类的项目。

h4v6sY

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以下是引用ma在2010/4/14 19:31:00的发言：

爱马一个模糊得定义，爱它身上的味道，喜欢它发脾气时的暴躁，它什么都知道喜、怒、哀、乐。它都知道。高贵的神灵，我怕它老的那一天离我而去。

誠如你所言

在我與馬為伍的日子裡

我碰過太多次的生離死別

眼見著一匹匹自己細心呵護.照顧的同伴離去

那份心痛實在是無法言喻

生離

一匹好馬總是眾人目光的焦點

你好不容易培養的一匹好馬

總無法避免商業交易

在你幫牠收拾行李時

這時!你只能默默祈禱

xxx 希望你能找到一個愛你.疼你的好馬主

死別

生老病死是一個無法避免的循環

眼看著自己的夥伴,突然的受病所害

你竭盡一切所能,但還是不能減輕他一點點的痛苦

只能無奈的看著牠

痛苦的用著最後的一絲力量與死神搏鬥.掙扎

然後

無力慢慢的倒下

...............

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That is so true!

I love my horses, just being together makes me so happy (I guess for them,it is a passive relationship: it is OK to have me near them but not necessarily a great joy for them! The only enjoyable time for the horses is to get a nice scratch from me under the chin or over the neck to cure the itch! Until one day I learned Clicker Training from HP, and my horses started to think of ways to get the treat, so they are more active and willing to play games with me. But they did it for the reward (carrots) and not because of me).

I don't particularly like to ride very fast.Just finishing a journey with my horse gives me great satisfaction. BuriKhan and me just finished 2 one star endurance races in Xinjiang this Summer and just completing the race is good enough for me. I don't like pushing the horse until it is dead tired.At the last race,I saw one horse pushed till it dropped dead on the grassland at the 46Km point.... just like that. The rider was a herdsman working (he was NOT a participant at the race) and he was just showing off riding so fast.His horse died instantly probably due to cardiac arrest or overheat.He just poked at the dead horse to see if he was really dead..... It was so so sad! Horses are very fragile animals..............we all felt so sorry for his horse, for having such an irresponsible master.

For the horse to carry the rider to finish such a long distance (80Km) within a few hours,without any complaints or mischief,tell us how extremely generous and giving a horse really is.

Horses should be treasured and loved by humans!

 

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Totally agree: Horses should be treasured and loved by humans!

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---完全同意！

Galbie,

>But they did it for the reward (carrots) and not because of me.

I have the same doubt as you have. However, I figure out that my horse really likes me. There was once in the pasture that my horse was scared away by something I did not know. He ran away like hell and disappeared. I went over the hills to find him. The moment I saw him, I whistled, and he ran directly back to me. I mean, he "RAN" to me like I'm a saver coming to the rescue.

I think there's a very important factor we need to keep in mind. We should never ever force the horse to do anything. Instead, we should always use our creativity to figure out a way that the horse is willing to offer the behavior by itself. Only by doing that the horse will have trust on us.

My 2 cents.

HP

Thanks HP!

How much time do you spend with your horse ?

I think your horse trusts you also because you spend a lot of time with him (not just riding him).Your "presence" means a lot to him!

>How much time do you spend with your horse ?

一週四, 五次, 每一次 2.5 小時. 每次騎乘 30 ~ 45 分鐘

HP

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以下是引用河东马痴在2010/7/24 12:26:00的发言：
谈点个人浅见  楼主是概念混淆  别把爱马和爱骑马混为一谈  真正的爱马那就是要像爱护孩子一样爱护它们  喂马 打扫马房 打理马匹 调教马匹 把他们培养成才  视马为友共同进步

同意此观点，我们要做马儿不能做到的，想马儿不能想到的，多颗心去体贴爱护他们！

坝上一年不知道会有多少马被骑死，骑残。我真不知道爱马人得定义是什么了。