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<p>Hi, meiwa, how are you. I have a problem, you maybe answer it. </p><p>The problem is that I own a horse his back is very sensitive or feel hurt. When I press with my fingers on his back along the&nbsp;vertebrae, &nbsp;his back is hollow and cannot stand steady. If the cause of his hollow back is too much sensitive, would MASSAGE be released&nbsp;his&nbsp;painful reaction.</p>

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alien 发表于 2006-3-29 05:29:00
how much do u buy a horse?

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alien 发表于 2006-3-29 05:44:00
<p>odd&nbsp;disease</p>

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1derful 发表于 2006-3-29 13:19:00
I'm not Meiwa, but your horse does sound like having a sore back.&nbsp; You need to let him rest, so he can have a chance&nbsp;to recover.&nbsp;If it's muscle related (no damage to the vertebrae), in the US, we inject anti-inflammatory drugs to the muscles if it's severe, and give the horse muscle relaxant orally and let the horse rest 2-4 weeks for the muscle injury to heal.&nbsp; Icing 15-20 minutes twice a day on the back muscles will also help reduce the inflammation.&nbsp; You can also tickle the horse's belly at where the girth goes across to help lift his back to stretch the back muscles some.&nbsp; This is a good exercise even if the horse's back is not sore.&nbsp; Good luck.&nbsp; I hope your horse feels better soon.
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cpng 发表于 2006-3-29 21:52:00
<p>Iderful, thank you very much. Your advice is much helpful. In China, medical injection and medicine to the horse, the related professional person and knowledge is far away to the acceptable condition.Therefore, I will use the following ways to try to cure my horse back-pain.</p><p>1. I will let him rest. It means I do not mount the saddle upon him and ride, but not only stay him in&nbsp;stable at all.I will&nbsp;give him routine longe.</p><p>2. I&nbsp;also let him walk into the hill, the different profile of trail will be helful to stretch his back muscle.</p><p>Besides, I want to ask more about the using cool treatment(ICING) to the chronic back pain. In my limited experience in this field, icing&nbsp; is always using in the instant injury area to&nbsp;control the hurt not go worse.&nbsp;To my horse's case, do you think the warm treatment(message with conventional chinese medicine&nbsp;alcohol跌打酒)is more appropriate or not?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Anyway, thanks again.</p>
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cpng 发表于 2006-3-29 22:05:00
<p>alien, I spent less than twenty thousands to own my horse. He is smart, good in comformation and gentle in mind. </p><p>Horse's back pain is very common not odd. For&nbsp; saddle horses, except their hoof and leg, their back where is the most common place to be hurt.</p>

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1derful 发表于 2006-3-31 12:39:00
<p>Hi, cpng, you're correct icing is usually used immediately after the injury.&nbsp; However, if the horse still has inflammation, and you can feel some heat and swelling,&nbsp;icing can still help to reduce the muscle swelling, so it has a chance to heal.&nbsp; If you don't feel swelling or heat (hotter than the surrounding skin), then you can actually use heat to help improve the circulation to take away the dead cells.&nbsp; If you have some medication to feed him, it will be helpful, even if it's just aspirin.&nbsp; Poor horse. I hope he feels better soon.</p><p>Back pain should not be commmon.&nbsp; It is very rare to have back injury as nothing hard will hit it unlike the legs.&nbsp; If&nbsp;it's not from a major trauma like the horse flipped over, or something hard fell on him, and hit hard on the back, the most common cause is poorly fitted saddle, where the channel in the middle is too narrow or has uneven pressure points.&nbsp; The saddle panels should fit to the horse's back's shape, and cover as much area as possible while not touching the vertebrae and the ligaments and muscles immediately next to the vertebrae.</p><p>Good luck.</p>

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cpng 发表于 2006-3-31 21:35:00
<p>Iderful, thanks again. Your advice is really much helpful.Visually, my horse have no swelling in his back and I also don't feel hotter at his sore area. </p><p>Aspirin, what is the dosage?</p><p>I will use more thicker saddle pad to protect&nbsp;my horse back. I suppose this is the main cause to make my horse back pain. Last time I rode, before I mounted the saddle I have checked his back, he showed nothing about sore back. But after riding, I checked his back again, he showed much painful.</p><p>And do you know any method to train the horse to improve his back muscle?</p><p>Best regards.</p>

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1derful 发表于 2006-4-1 11:52:00

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cpng 发表于 2006-4-2 22:49:00
<p>Iderful, thanks your reply.</p><p>I tried the back left excerise, but my horse did not show any reaction. </p><p>About massage, while I apply very gentle force to carry out the massage to his back, he cannot stand steadily and hollow his back deeply. What can I do?</p><p>Best regards.</p>

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1derful 发表于 2006-4-4 17:56:00

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cpng 发表于 2006-4-4 20:39:00
<p>Last Saturday, I treated my horse pain back as the follow:</p><p>1. warming up his back muscle to activate circulation, about 20 mins.</p><p>2.massage his back muscle with chinese medical wine, just 2 mins.</p><p>Then, he reacted so excitedly, or showed very unsteady.&nbsp;He was moving&nbsp;around&nbsp;in his stable.&nbsp;He tried a little buck, and extended his body as long as possible, to contract his back muscle. At last, he laid down. A few moment, he settled down and looked relax.15 mins later, he stood up again and showed peacefully.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, the limited facility of the stallion,apply icing method is seen impossible now.But the mentioned website is very useful to stretch my horse back muscle, I will try. </p><p>Thanks your kind assistance.</p>
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1derful 发表于 2006-4-5 11:08:00
It sounds like that you're on the right track.&nbsp; The Chinese herbal medicine can calm down the inflammation and increase the blood circulation, so hopefully that will help him.&nbsp; If the herbal solution is not stinging to his skin to cause his reaction, then it's actually a good sign as he wanted to move around.&nbsp; Keep doing what you're doing if you can't ice him, but let me know how it goes.&nbsp; I would like to know what herbal medicine you use too.
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cpng 发表于 2006-4-5 19:36:00
<p>1derful, thanks your reply. </p><p>I will post the further progress of curing my horse back pain here. And I would like to know more about the bare foot of horse as you mentioned in chinese forum.Just like the medical knowlegde and equipments, professional farriers are very limited in China.My horse right fore leg was hurt during to replace the shoe. And I was not there. His hoof was over-trimmed and fitted the under-size shoe, then hurted by nail. He&nbsp;is lame now.What a poor horse.</p>
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meiwa 发表于 2006-4-7 23:24:00
<p>well, the best way to treat the sore back&nbsp;i believe is to use TENS machine which is transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator, the machines are designed for pain relief..While i was in the Therapy Center, i saw many cases that the horses had sore back and long back evern the sore legs. the most popular way to treat these problems is to use the TENs or interferential (not sure if it's the right way to spell)...but i m not a Equine Therapiest, i couldnt tell u how to do that, u need some one are expert on therapy </p><p>Haven't u ask any Vets to drop in and have a look at the "baby"??? </p>
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cpng 发表于 2006-4-11 00:01:00
Hi, meiwa. My horse who is living in "東莞"CHINA. There is lack of qualified vets. Futhermore, can you&nbsp;describe more detailed&nbsp;what&nbsp;is the TENS.&nbsp;And&nbsp;if&nbsp;I do not misunderstand&nbsp;what is the TENS machines as you described above, I&nbsp;have seen that machines which is used&nbsp;on&nbsp;human beings in Hong Kong. I suppose if such&nbsp;equipment apply to the horse, which power&nbsp;output is much lower to &nbsp;reach the Equine standard.
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cpng 发表于 2006-4-18 18:34:00
<p>During all Eastering Holiday, I massaged my horse back everyday. After the therapy, he can stand much more when I press his back. Futhermore, in this period, I unwore his foot. I wish he can run in bare foot, too.</p>
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meiwa 发表于 2006-4-27 15:52:00
<p>hi cpng, glad to hear that ur baby is getting better, the TENS machine IS derived from&nbsp;human therapy. it was recently widely used on dogs, but there are still limit knowledge on application to the horses. but the outcome were quite expectable...</p><p>to the power of the treatment, <font color="#f70938">i will try to find out for u</font>, as i know different level of the power&nbsp;shows different treatment outcomes. For a horse receive the treatment&nbsp;at the first time, the power should be low in order to investgate the reaction of the horse.</p>
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cpng 发表于 2006-4-27 21:14:00
<p>meiwa, thanks for your reply.</p><p>It's made sense to set the power output as low as possible. I have used the TENS machine on my horse, which is used on human, he seens without any reaction about the machine though I set the output in maximum. I suspect this level of power is still too weak to the horse. </p><p>Bye, keep in touch.</p>
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好马 发表于 2006-4-28 07:38:00
<p>I&nbsp;will let&nbsp;my&nbsp;baby horse&nbsp;walk into the hill.</p><p>because the different profile of trail will be helpful to stretch his back muscle;)</p>
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